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(While most of the website contains original works, this area focuses upon 'vast contributors'.    And, we'll try to expand upon it.   .......

 
(article A)  Courtroom Bias:

When John's divorce was finalized,
he was amongst the few lucky men rewarded equal custody.
 .....or, so he thought:

     "I was pleasantly surprised when the judge declared both parents would jointly share responsibilities.
      And, my sons would remain with me, precisely 50% of the time.
      But, then, I was alittle surprised when the judge ordered me to pay $190 dollars per week to
      my former spouse.
      There was no reason whatsoever to reach this verdict.
      Joint custody should eliminate such obligations."

SO,
 why was John ordered to provide support, despite being given equal custody?
The reason is because both children attended the School-district of their mother.
While John resided in a nearby town.
Thus, he was required to drive his kids an extra 20 miles each day,
And, for that simple reason, he was actually expected to pay weekly support.

It's almost as though, television dictates courtroom policy.
and, since the issue of child-support receives constant attention,
this affects judiciary decisions.
In simple terms:
 The Judge watches things on television,
and, it gives him the idea to follow this procedure.
            

 
(article B)    Reality Check

It's important to emphasize social issues which accurately apply to everyday reality.
Aside from the political arena,
men are treated like 2nd-class citizens in numerous ways.

Here's one such example:
   Eric & Jimmy were performing their semi-annual inspection in Westchester, N.Y.,
   at 3 Elmsford Executive boulevard.
   They were quiet and peaceful.
   and, their inspection went quite smoothly.
   So, as they were leaving the building, Eric stopped at the Soda Machine.
   Suddenly, a female worker stepped into the area,
   and rudely told Eric not to use their facilities again.
   "These are for employees only".
  
"and, you can't touch our appliances".

  
Eric then accused her of discriminating against him, on the basis of gender. 
   He theorized that, if a woman had instead walked into the room to buy soda or chips,
   nobody would have complained.
   And,  on the flip side, 
   could you ever imagine a male treating a woman this way?
   It would never happen.

(by the way: Eric later learned that he'd been working at a STATE office, rather than a private business).

After the incident, Jimmy mentioned that such things are not unique. 
He had a similar experience just a few months earlier.
   While working at a Gannet Building, Jimmy was fixing a few leaking pipes.
    And he remembers a female worker complaining,
    just because he was trying to use their drinking fountain.
    It's unimaginable.  But, women often treat men like the lower classes.
    Similar to the wealthy disassociating with average citizens. 

   ....this is reality check.

 
(Article C)    The Continuing Story

    Similar to the article above,
Construction workers face this degree of humiliation when working in private homes.   Male workers are not permitted to use the family toilet.  And, although that's perfectly understandable, female workers are freely allowed access to these private restrooms.


there are numerous accounts, but, one example sticks clearly to mind:
     A home was being repaired during a bitter winter.
     And, the men were required to use a portable outhouse, outdoors.
     This was understandable, but, the door to this facility would not close.
     And, there were holes in the side, which disregarded privacy.
     Occasionally, there was no tissue or sanitation.
      But, this too was accepted by all workers. 
     
      However, the female engineers were allowed to use the indoor bathroom.
      The men never complained.
       But, when the female architects visited, the males consequentially preferred using the indoor toilet.  
       In which case, the homeowners became quite angry. 
       Even the maid would yell at the men, for daring to use the indoor toilet.
       Despite the fact, men would only do this, whenever the females visited the site.
       SO, normally, these guys were willing to use the outdoor facility.
      But, since the doors were broken,
       the men thought it would be best to behave appropriately.
       Thus, a few times each week,
      the men attempted to avoid the outhouse, while ladies were present.
      But, the  Cleaning Lady refused to accept these terms.
      And, three separate times, she scolded Jimmy for trying to use the indoor toilet.
       Eventually warning him to never try using it, again.

Here's another example, where males are basically treated like 2nd-class citizens.
             ...this is reality.


 

(article D)    Woman's World

When Dr. Dennis Neder wrote the book "Being a man,  in a Woman's World,  it stirred a major controversy.  Mainly because conventional wisdom was supposedly indisputable.   And, we've all been told that "women are the victims of unjust stereotyping".  Therefore, it's unthinkable to suggest otherwise, just because mainstream media teaches a distinct message.  

But, these notions are solely based upon the idea that men are politically advantaged.   While failing to recognize that there's a vast array of issues outside this spectrum.   Perhaps more accurately, those "political" arguments only account for a small percentage of life's functions.   This is why Dr. Neder's book was so important.  It mainly focused upon those everyday issues, such as, love & relationships. 

Aside from these topics,  interviews with Neder sparked additional topics.    Here are a few examples:    He mentioned the huge moral advantage for women in the workforce, simply because it's fueled by the image of "change" & "Modernism". 

 
He was also confronted by a reporter who asked  about 'men's reluctance to deal with women in the workforce.    To which,  Neder commented by saying, "We all came from households where the man went out-to-work, while the woman stayed home.    .....and Everybody seemed to be happy". 

 
(article d2)

here's the response from mensrightsmovement:

Firstly, these reporters are deliberately promoting themes which openly welcome women into the workforce.   And,  such powerful messages are meant to control our daily perspective.   They create enormous imagery glorifying "women in the workforce".   But, they don't realize that, employment didn't always carry such strong meaning.   Years ago, there was little association between working & boosting one's  self-identity.    Nowadays, women just can't see that.     She's been taught by the media to proudly demonstrate a bold statement.   And, quite frankly, that's just not fair.

an additional response from mensrightsmovement.net:
Now, to answer Dr. Neder's remark directly:  

Years ago:  when fathers worked, and mothers raised children, it was actually women who were happiest with this arrangement.  (not men).   Indeed, that statement is correct.   During this forgotten era,  guys were simply used as laborers, mainly for the convenience of their wives.   And, he was happy to make such sacrifices, for the benefit of his family.  However, males were generally miserable with their working conditions.     Plus, few men were happy spending an entire lifetime in the workforce. 

 
(article d3)

Dr. Neder also challenged the interviewer by deciphering realities of the workforce. 
HE pointed out how a woman can raise a family, 
or,  she can work part-time,
or, pursue temporary goals while settling to care for her children.
or, she can venture into local business.
Or, open a store near home.
Or, take a job which carries little burden.
or, she can work from home  .... without obligation to succeed.
She may also begin her career later in life.  Or, retire early.

While the man has only ONE OPTION.
he must spent his entire lifetime working,  and become successful.

Notice how it's not enough for a man to simply remain employed.
Rather instead,  he must show favorable results  in order to meet her satisfaction.

Another Men's Activist once joked about this issue, by saying,
 "Men have three options".
 1) to work,     2)   work, 
or,  3)  work.

That's all.
There's no glory here.       Just labor, sacrifice, &, salary.




 

 
(Article E)
                       The Big Mix

  Most guys  are faced with several contradictory ideas.
On the one hand,  whenever he chats with women, they constantly talk down to him.
In short, women are unfriendly, and insensitive toward their male counterpart.
Then, there's the idea claiming that "Women should learn to speak their minds".

it's a mixture of conflicting ideas.   And, people never stop to consider that such themes merely reflect her best interests.     In short:  she wants to create these bold statements,  whether they're accurate or not.

So, as a result,  you can see contradictory messages,  which are repeated again and again.

"women are strong, and they're willing to take a stand"

then, on the flip-side:
"men should behave more considerately when seeking a partner".

Then,  back to square-one again:
"women aren't afraid to speak their minds".

only to be followed by another insulting dating tip for guys:
"if the woman's not interested in you,  then, get lost, loser".

...... and, that's the Big Mix.
now, go onto Youtube,  and, notice how many times these conflicting ideas surface.   And, we must wrestle with both confusing messages.   





 
Society gives limited freedoms to men.  And, here's one such example:   A group of students are sitting in the lunchroom, listening to music.  And, a top hit that year was, Rock Me, Amedeus, from Austrian artist, Falco.     So, a few kids asked David whether or not he liked the song.  He thought it was okay, but, preferred to avoid arguments between two opposing sides.  Some thought the song was "awesome".  While others considered it, "uncool". 

However, Dave casually mentioned that the artist was quite good looking.  The other kids immediately began branding him, a "FAGGOT", just because he thought another male was attractive.  There were no homosexual undertones whatsoever.  But, a male must be very careful what he says.

 
Now, this stereotype effectively prevents males from connecting with one another.  So, in consequence, they rarely shake hands, or, brush against each other.  There's fear of being labeled "homosexual".

SO, while female are allowed to rest their shoulders upon one another.  Males are prohibited from any type of emotional contact, whatsoever.
  
You've all watched Hollywood movies.  The actors are build like athletes, almost to near perfection.  There's no sexual innuendo, here.  It's possible to notice these things, without being the least bit "gay".  Yet, males could face harsh consequences, just because he thinks another man is handsome.

So, here's some advice:
     .......never make this mistake.   You're better off, keeping your thoughts private.
   And, ultimately, women benefit most from this stereotype.
Because, she's given social liberties. 


 

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